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8/17/2023 1:00:44 PM

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Section 4: President & Congress
Subject: Republican Policies Msg# 1191341

From:

Mark Freburg

Joined 4/3/2000

To:

Jim Matthews (Read)

Joined 6/10/2008

Since you obviously want to hammer me until I concede to you on this topic, let me address it again. You posted four links. The first was a bit hard to use. Here's an easier to read, actual map, also from the Census Bureau:
Image below from Mark Freburg - Image Title: Povery Levels Uploaded: 8/17/2023
Image Info: Census Bureau map showing poverty levels 2019

Note neither correlates with political party, for which we need a second map. The problem there is which map? Map of state governors? Map of members of Congress from each state? Map of how each state voted in the last election? My research shows these are not all the same. Based on that one must go one one's experience in simply knowing which party has historically controlled a given state.

And finally, regarding the rest of your links. Two were from Wikipedia, and not worth our time, as Wikipedia is anything but unbiased. If you don't know, Wikipedia is comprised of articles uploaded by individuals and organizations, and which can be edited by ANYONE.

Your last link was from a source called "Hospital," which would not let me look at it.

For reference, the above message is a reply to a message where:
But if you want to believe that states run by Democrats are havens of wealth and prosperity and peace and happiness

That's not what I said, at all.

I inferred from you comment that you thought my links to the census bureau were invalid because that and other agencies are corrupt.

All I asked was that if you thought my picture was an incorrect depiction of red states, that you give me something concrete that supported your opinion. I am quite willing to discuss that. But when you spout that my position is nonsense, I give you links to relevant US census data supporting that position, and you cast doubts upon the legitimacy of government agencies, it tells me that you have nothing to support your opinion, and that you simply want to deflect the conversation until it goes away.

Deflection is often used on this "forum" to steer the "conversation" away from an unpleasant subject that the "participants" do not want to address or deal with.

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